(2) The dark side of Wisdom

The original title of this blog was “Wisdom as a bitch”.  For those who have just dropped in, my premise is to examine Wisdom in Proverbs as female, wise and loving in the way that Jesus described his ‘Father’, not Joseph but God.  The chapters I am use specifically define wisdom as female.  Proverbs 1:20-33, 8:1-36 and 9:1-18.

Sticking with the theme from ‘Folly to be Wise’ .. our first example of folly is in deciding that this is an appropriate example of the behaviour of a loving God, or even a creation of God (discussed more in the next article “The nature of Wisdom”); the God who Jesus tried so hard to convince us was watching over us and loving us unconditionally (1 Corinthians 1:1-13).  Paraphrasing … ‘Love one another as I have loved you’ (John 13:34, 15:12).  If Wisdom is the example, it is no wonder living people do not get along with each other.

Wisdom as a female prophet

In Proverbs 1:20-23 Wisdom, as a woman, was outside yelling in the streets, demanding attention.  She called everyone ‘simple ones’.
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I shall extend this a little and suggest she meant ‘simple-minded’ in our language, given that she later refers to fools or foolish people.  The dictionary meaning of simple-minded is:  “not very intelligent, or having or showing a lack of good sense or judgement” (1).  Is she calling to fools in hope they will listen to her, or the innocent who will not look past the covering of sweet words and promises?
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Proverbs 1:24-33
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24 Because I have called and you refused;  have stretched out my hand and no one heeded, 
25 And because you have ignored all my counsel and would have none of my reproof,
26 I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when panic strikes you,
27 when panic strikes you like a storm, and your calamity comes like a whirlwind, when distress and anguish come upon you.
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Is this Wisdom, wise and kind?  She turns her back on those who do not listen to her.  She laughs and mocks.  Is that what a loving creation of God would do?  Is this what God does to those who believe in him?  And even to those who don’t?  If God loves all of his creations unconditionally, then those who do not believe are loved as much as those who do.  They are all given the opportunity to choose another path – the one that leads back to him.  Whether God loves unconditionally or not is not a discussion for today, but it will become another blog in the future.
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28 Then they will call upon me, but I will not answer; they will seek me diligently, but will not find me.
29 Because they hated knowledge and did not choose the fear of the Lord,
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Humanity chooses not the fear the Lord, but Wisdom is not ‘The Lord’ so her anger at them is on God’s behalf, or is it?  Given that we are supposed to pay attention to ‘her’ (Proverbs 22:17-18, 5:1-6) and give her the same respect as God, where does she place herself in the hierarchy?
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Her behaviour is not God’s behaviour – “Ask, and it will be given you; search, and you will find; knock, and the door will be opened for you.  For everyone who asks receives, and everyone who searches finds, and for everyone who knocks, the door will be opened”. (Matthew 7:7-8 & Luke 11:9-10)
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30 would have none of my counsel, and despised all my reproof,
31 therefore they shall eat the fruit of their way and be sated with their own devices.
A reference to Genesis 3:6 when Eve and then Adam ate the fruit and they were both expelled from the “Garden”.  Humanity was foolish then, and if they do not listen to ‘her’ they will remain that way.
32 For waywardness kills the simple, and the complacency of fools destroys them;
33 but those who listen to me will be secure and will live at ease, without dread of disaster.
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Having done many years research into the concept of fallen angels, I can perfectly see here the storms and rages of an invisible being acting in the mirror image of her* true nature as Wisdom.

  • Please note that when I say ‘her’ I am doing two things, following the theme of wisdom as a female (all emotion) and also that fallen angels (demons) are also driven by emotion (ego).  I am not classifying the female human race as either all emotion or demons.

The nature of Wisdom is to learn and teach.  This being called ‘Wisdom’ offers so much with one hand, and takes it back with the other.  She is, if you like, in two minds.  The angel of Illumination (2) would swap from teaching Love and Wisdom to teaching Hatred and Confusion.  She would act out her dissatisfaction with those who refuse to follow her – in a way that is exactly opposite a loving God, but more like the behaviour of Jehovah, who is not to be trusted.

The Blessings of Wisdom

Proverbs 8:1-36

13 The fear of the Lord is hatred of evil …
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I could write a whole page on this very short sentence.  To me it has one meaning.  Every commentary I have checked either ignores it, or tries to rewrite it, sometimes in great depth, or explain that it means something it doesn’t say.  They refer to Proverbs 1:7 “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge, fools despise wisdom and instruction”; and 9:10 “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and the knowledge of the Holy One is insight”.  But it does not say either of those things.  It says ‘The fear of the Lord .. is hatred of evil’ .. as if this Lord fears that people will “hate evil”?  Who is this Lord?  9:10 makes perfect sense if it is an entity that should be avoided, such as Wisdom and ‘him’self.  (Lord being a male title). The rest of 13 is …  pride and arrogance and the way of evil and perverted speech I hate.
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14 I have good advice and sound wisdom; I have insight; I have strength.
15 By me kings reign, and rulers decree what is just;
16 by me rulers rule, and nobles, all who govern rightly.
17 I love those who love me, and those who seek me diligently find me.
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14 – 17 are all “I am” statements, demonstrating her power.  Like God in Job 38, 39 & 41, some of which appears to be incoherent rantings.  For example, 41:1 “Can you draw out Leviathan with a fishhook …?” when Job calls God to account for his suffering.
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And then there are these:
Wisdom offers …
18 Riches and honour are with me, enduring wealth and prosperity.
19 My fruit is better than gold, even fine gold, and my yield than choice silver.
20 I walk in the way of righteousness, in the paths of justice,
21 endowing with wealth those who love me, and filling their treasuries.
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Matthew 6:19-21
Jesus offers …
19 Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth; where moth and rust consume and where thieves break in and steal;
20 but store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust consumes and where thieves do not break in and steal.
21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
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Who is this being called Wisdom?   There is more to follow ….
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More babble about Babel

Ok, so I am playing with words .. but here’s a thought … who is ‘us’?

In my translation of the Bible (New Oxford Annotated Bible Fourth Edition) the ‘Lord’ said, “Come, let US go down and confusion their language, so that they will not understand one another’s speech”.  This throws me back to the conversation at the creation of humanity ‘Let US make humankind in OUR image, according to OUR likeness..’.  Now I know humanity uses the ‘royal plural’ in speech these days, and it has to come from somewhere, but if God made humanity in its image, then God is both male and female, or a hermaphrodite, being a little of each.  That would explain one form of the ‘us’.  

Which raises the thought that if humanity was speaking with one language, easily understanding each other, joyfully worshipping God, why would Jehovah want to disrupt this perfection .. or weren’t humanity supposed to achieve this before Jesus came, to show God in all its glory?  And which God are we talking about anyway, since there is no Love and good in all that confusion .. or is there?

Humankind learns best through trial and error.  Given a perfect circumstances we are quite determined to find something wrong with it, throw in our own thoughts and opinions, and build a tower that leans like Pisa .. we don’t need any help from God to screw up, we have it down to an art form.  By Jehovah and friends stepping in and confusing the language, they would first have caused arguments, perhaps even wars, but after a time some people would have tried to learn each other’s languages, just as we do today.  Even sign language, or hand gestures can almost create a conversation, with some work.  Was that the plan?  To try and make humanity less perfect .. after all everyone was descended from Noah and his wife and daughter’s-in-law .. I wonder how those three felt after losing their parents in the flood, but that’s a side thought .. was Noah perfect, or just good at boat building?  

Reading on .. No, he definitely wasn’t perfect, he cursed his grandson Canaan for the boy’s father (Ham) seeing him naked.  My notes talk about incestuous behaviours, but to be ‘naked’ has another meaning.  It means to be truly visible in all your imperfections, to have nothing hidden .. so if Noah was not a good man, Ham saw this and ‘knew’ Noah differently from his brothers.  Can we compare this with being supposed not to look into the face of God, because we will die .. but why should we, if God is only about Love, then why would God’s ‘nakedness’ destroy us?  Why are we not allowed to be curious about God?  There was no written language at that time, only the stories passed from teacher to pupil, and parents to children, and those stories talked of the history, the mystery and the facts about God .. but not just the God of the Israelites, because that was before their time also, but Gods from other communities around them .. and yet, all those other communities came from the same source, so where did the different ‘gods’ come from, if not from human imagination?  I would think that the real God would truly want humanity to find It again among the muddle .. so confusing the language, to me, seems purposefully destructive.  Why did humanity need to be so severely punished in a time when they were scattering across the world anyway .. or was it because they were ‘not’ scattering?  No, that’s not true either, if you read your bible .. confusion on confusion .. and this book is translated direct from the ancient languages.

Gotta love it ..

Bless you all.

Observing Genesis: The Tower of Babel and Faith

Who is God?

.. or even ‘what is God’?

I remember a discussion, well, almost a discussion, with an interesting young male Christian who, when asked not to use the Bible as a source of reference for ‘who is God’ gave up the argument straight away, because the Bible is the only source, or ‘Word’, we have of who or what God is – and the views are conflicting.

And then there is Faith. One daily religious message I get describes faith as a ‘gift from God’. It goes on to say that ‘Faith allows us to perceive the truth’, but I have to question quite a bit of this statement given that other religious people have ‘faith’ in their God, so is their truth different to mine, if I choose to believe in Jesus’ God rather than Job’s, or theirs?

That’s one of the conflicts. Jesus’ God taught ‘love one another’, Job’s taught ‘fear me or I will punish the most innocent among you’. Which would you prefer to follow, given a choice? Allah preaches peace, but some of ‘his’ followers preach Jihad? Whose truth is that?

The daily religious ‘thought’ then says faith ‘persuades our emotions to embrace the truth and then moves our will to act upon it’. Persuades .. does faith nag? Persuasion can be a very quiet and gentle voice, or it can be a nagging irritation .. think of a tired two year old who demands something she or he wants, regardless of what the parent wants. In the end we give in, because there is no other way to stop the noise. Which raises the question ‘does God nag’? And since our emotions are connected to our ego (the inner child who often lives in fear), which demands immediate obedience, particularly when we are unhappy, how does it help us in the search for truth? Do we search only through desperation, or, as sometimes happens .. revelation? Is that why ‘born again Christians’ (and Muslims .. I’ve been nagged by them too ‘the one true religion’) have so much zeal that they sometimes forget good manners and start nagging me to ‘convert’ .. only I don’t have to, I’m already Christian. Why do I have to be ‘born again’, or even baptised again? And which ‘faith’ do I choose .. there are so many that call themselves Christian these days.

In the beginning there was one language in the world, and that one language inspired humanity to reach towards God, or did it? Perhaps it inspired only arrogance? The people even built a tower to try and reach God’s resting place (Genesis 11:1-9) – though I don’t see how that works, given that God is a spiritual being, and heaven is not in the sky around the planet. Down came ‘the Lord’, saw they were gathered as one people (the way he created them to be, given that God created all things) and then decided to punish them for their aspirations by taking away the common language and scattering humanity across the earth. They stopped building the tower for a while.

I’m confused. Why did God decide to do this? The passage says that the Lord then stated “… and this is only the beginning of what they will do; nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them”. Since humanity was created to create, what is the issue here?

And so I slip down into the notes and find: ‘this theme revisits the “preservation of the divine-human boundary”. God did not want us to live forever (Genesis 3:22-24), nor to bear half-divine children (6:1-4). Not sure what that has to do with stopping people building towers, but perhaps Jehovah didn’t want humanity to gain knowledge that would show its true nature, given its pleasure in disrupting our lives? And was the tower literal, or figurative .. the search for the knowledge of what God actually is, or who it is .. confusing conversations, comparisons, and creativity would definitely stop people finding out who God really is. Such a pity at a time when we truly need it most.

The tower of Babel, or the outcome of its building, still affects the world today. When will we once again find a common language, one based on Love not hatred, one based on Faith and not fear, one based on one Truth .. not my truth, or your truth, but OUR truth. Until that time we are still roaming the world, lost, alone and frightened .. and yet the voice of God is now within us .. so who created the boundary .. who scattered the people? Who is the Lord Jehovah, if God teaches Love? And who took the barrier away .. I think the Christians know the answer to that particular question, or think they do.

God bless you.

Observing Genesis: God and Adam, who created humanity?

God created Adam; we will ignore Lilith for the purpose of this discussion.  We know God created Adam, because he did it twice.  I have to wonder what was wrong with the first version.  That being said, I looked up Genesis and it reads “Let ‘us’ make humankind in our image, according to our likeness …” 1:26 and then in 1:27 “so God created humankind in his image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.”  The next question that arises is who is ‘us’; who was God talking to in an inclusive manner, which then suggests that it took more than God to create humanity. 

Then there’s the question of ‘male and female’- if God created humanity in its image, there is either more than one God, or God is both male and female.  So what is all the screaming about people worshipping the Goddess?  Surely they are the same energy, having been part of our Creation?  Or is that part of the problem with having a jealous God?  And that was just chapter 1.

Chapter 2 of Genesis says the Lord God formed man from the dust of the ground 2:7, but not woman; she came later, when Adam (first man) was lonely.  First God created the animals, then, when Adam was still not satisfied, God put him to sleep, and took one of his ribs (he must have had a spare, because males still have the balance of ribs in their bodies today)and created him a mate/partner.  Interestingly enough, Adam was banned from eating from the tree of knowledge ‘before’ the woman (Eve) was created. 2:16-17

On a side note, the tree of the knowledge of good and evil could not have had seeds in its fruit because God gave all the trees with seeds to humanity for its consumption, but that’s completely off topic.

Moving on to Chapter 3 we have more of the ‘us’ stuff.  Who is God talking to in 3:22 which says “Then the Lord God said, “see, the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil,; and now, he might reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever” .. so God sent him, and Eve, from the garden.  He ‘drove out the man’ 3:24 and set a cherubim to watch the gate, so that he (they) could never return.  Just to protect us from immortality?

Is God learning from us, or are we learning from God?  He was very angry when he found that Adam had chosen to eat the fruit that Eve had given him, but why have it in the garden if it could create such harm?  Did he consider humanity was not intelligent enough to avoid eating something life changing, so warned Adam away from the tree?  And why put the innocent newly-created human into this garden, which had no animals or birds or fish within it to feed from? 2:15  I guess Adam was vegetarian, or perhaps, as an innocent, he simply didn’t eat?  No, that can’t be right; otherwise Eve would not have considered eating the fruit.  Did Adam only start eating meat once his innocence was gone?  Before that he had dominion over the animals etc 1:26, he was to protect them, not eat them.

Then there is the question of God’s omnipotence.. he didn’t know that Adam had eaten the fruit 3:11 when they hid from him in the garden?  I was always taught that God knows everything I do.  And why curse them so severely because they now knew good and evil?  How did that make them better people?  As to the serpent, surely God knew that it too was in the garden, and the sort of mischief it might get up to? 

What is original sin – disobedience to God?

The first sin was to disobey God, or was it to listen to any voice but His?  Did God decide to take away humanity’s innocence by letting the serpent be in the garden, so that Eve could actually want to go and take the forbidden fruit?  Are we to blame the devil for Eve’s choice to give it to Adam, or does it all come back to God again, for allowing the ‘serpent’ to sneak into the garden in the first place – given that God is omnipresent and omnipotent, and would have known exactly what the serpent was up to.   Here was the first test, which led to so many others.  Here was humanity’s first failure.  God tests His creations, just look at Job?  So the advice ‘do not pick the fruit from the tree’ was a test humanity was meant to fail – how else could God learn about Himself, unless through His own creations.  Can you think of another reason for creating them? 

And where is the sin?  Considering all the factors, didn’t Adam and Eve simply act in the way God wanted them to, so that we could become the ‘learning and growing’ beings we are today?  Or did God actually want humanity to remain within his private zoo?  I can’t see that myself, even the animals evolve ..

Love & Peace, Ama

Why do we keep punishing Jesus?

Jesus was hung on a cross for humanity’s sins. We know he was crucified because we have proof now, but the ‘why’ of this is up for interpretation. Christian folk have been taught that he was an innocent man tortured to save each of us, condemned for no reason but that he spoke out against the Roman dictatorship over the Jewish people, and the churches dictatorship over its own people. Oh yes, he broke a few tables along the way, but he never broke any ‘heads’, so he was calmer and quieter than some of the rabble who called themselves God’s representatives at the time. His message was one of love, peace and forgiveness – but that got lost along the way when the writer of Revelation turned him into the Vengeful Messiah the Jewish folk were craving .. sorry, the Christian folk were craving, after they converted.

Two thousand years later how much has changed? There are still people selling holy relics in the churches, only we call them music CDs and meditation tapes these days (or bits of the stone wall, imported direct from Mecca). Money still changes hands to buy redemption .. only now it’s called ‘give to the churches favourite charity’ (itself?). And our behaviour hasn’t improved, even after all this time, and all the sermons (or lectures) delivered from various pulpits. The Ten Commandments are still being ignored by most people, who go ahead and lust, steal and murder whenever it suits them. How many of them do you think care what God or Jesus will actually do to them after they die? Oh no, they’ve already turned their backs on that belief system .. and even if they haven’t .. the good Christians are murdering the commandments day by day.

I don’t really want to debate the commandments today, even though I think we should all put some serious consideration into re-inventing them. It’s not that they aren’t important, it’s that some of them don’t make sense anymore, given what Jesus taught us about God, and then there’s ‘honouring your parents’ which may end in you being abused by one, or both, of them. So let me get back to the point …

I was listening to Christian radio the other day, happily agreeing with what most of the speaker was saying, until something he said made me realise that we are constantly punishing Jesus. When we choose to sin we are deliberately denying everything he did for us by being hung up on that Cross. The teachings of the church, particularly when I was a child, was that each of us is born into sin .. the sins of our ‘fathers’ (does that make our mother’s relieved?) .. which actually means ‘the sins of our parents’. I have to ask why God would create beings that carried this sin for generation to generation (40 in all?) and how we escape it .. how about the 41st generation .. but no, the sin continues onto and into forever, and we can never be free of it, unless we accept Jesus as our Lord and Saviour .. (strange how we are lumbered with sin, but not allowed to benefit from the acceptance of our parent’s heartfelt connection back to God. When does the poison stop spreading through humanity’s veins .. and sin is a poison. It does make us ill). So I accept Jesus as my Lord and Saviour and therefore I am rescued from sin .. in that moment. Ten minutes later I go outside, covet someone’s car or bus or bike, or wife (heaven forbid because I’m female .. and my husband would object :-)) and I am back to being a sinner again.

So I turn myself around, go back into the church, and if it’s appropriate, confess this sin, say the Hail Mary’s or various other prayers we all use to ask for forgiveness and everything is all right again .. until I go outside and, walking home, ‘borrow’ a lemon from the fruit tree down the road (and the sin is not mitigated by making lemon cake and giving the owner half), without asking the owner first. Whoops, there goes sin number eight. Or worse, I tap the statue of Mother Mary on the knee on the way out the door and thank her for everything she’s helped me with (all those prayers) and there’s sin number two, because all thanks should be to God, or so I am taught. And what about if I have to work a shift or two on Sunday .. do I spent Monday on my knees begging forgiveness, not just for that one day, but because I am a repeat sinner. Is the punishment worse if we consciously sin over and over again?

Dear Jesus, who removed the sins of the world (John 1:29) .. turns out you only gave us the grace to turn around and break the rules again. And if you did remove ‘the sins of the world’ why is it that the Christians think you only did it for them?

There are times that I stand outside the Christian faith looking in and wonder what God will truly do to all those hypocrites, liars, cheats and thieves, and that’s just among the clergy. If they are not good enough Christians, and I am only a lay Theologian, what hope is there for me, if I follow their leadership? The church set themselves up as the role model for humanity .. and yet the law is now chasing various churches for not producing their paedophiles on demand, for covering up thousands of cases of abuse, and convincing the innocent that they would be publicly vilified if they tell anyone that a priest was their abuser. And where is Jesus in all this .. still hung up on the cross, because he really needs to stay there otherwise we have no hope at all.

For all the agony that he suffered for us in those three hours or so he was crucified, we have given him two and half million+ hours more through our own thoughts and actions. When do you think it will be enough, and he can come down off the cross and help us to be the people we can be, through his example .. loving, kind, generous, forgiving, tolerant, peaceful, thoughtful, God filled? Sometime soon I hope.

In a world full of fear and hatred being a God-filled person and trying to ‘lead by example’ can be incredibly difficult, but that is no excuse for not trying. Jesus was a human being just like you and me. He put his life on the line for us, as a living example of what we can achieve, with a little determination, a touch of temper and a strong desire to change the world. He started small. Look at the society God chose to drop him into, and the challenges of no ‘mass communication’, apart from anything else. Word of mouth was the best form of advertising then, and it still is. Leading by example still gathers hearts and souls together. Now we have the internet, and tv and movies, and what do we produce .. more programs to create horror and fear .. just look at the nightly news and their focus on disasters ..

But then, I am getting off the topic again ..

When Jesus saved us he knew we were sinners and that we needed a representative between us and God, and so he put himself there, human fears and all. Can we make ourselves a representative who stands up for what Jesus believes in, although society might ignore us or laugh and make fun? Can we ask him to come down off that cross for each of us now? You see, when Jesus was alive, there was no Christianity, there was only God. Jesus was not Christian, he was not exclusive, or inclusive, he wanted to talk to everyone about his Creator. The Christian church is closing its door on its own reality right now, because it is run by sinners seeking Revelationianic outcomes, rather than the truly loving ones that Jesus taught us about. Because .. when you think about it for a moment .. you will realise that, if Vengeful Messiah ‘came’ now, heaven would be very empty, and most of us would be in hell, suffering with the demons. Where would you be?

Love & Peace
Ama

Is God evil?

Hey .. you true believers out there – will one of you please explain why your group always seems to run away from the tough questions? It’s not like you can’t see them .. or maybe you can’t, but when they are pointed out to you – why don’t you answer? Please, try and prove me wrong. I don’t want to believe that the ‘one’ God in the bible is evil – but the facts seem to speak for themselves. What do I mean? How can I possibly say that? Well, to start with, I don’t believe there’s only one God .. so let’s be a little specific and look only at the OT one, for now.

Is God evil?

First let’s define evil.

1. Morally bad or wrong; wicked: an evil tyrant.
2. Causing ruin, injury, or pain; harmful: the evil effects of a poor diet.
3. Characterized by or indicating future misfortune; ominous: evil omens.
4. Bad or blameworthy by report; infamous: an evil reputation.
5. Characterized by anger or spite; malicious: an evil temper.
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1. The quality of being morally bad or wrong; wickedness.
2. That which causes harm, misfortune, or destruction: a leader’s power to do both good and evil.
3. An evil force, power, or personification.
4. Something that is a cause or source of suffering, injury, or destruction: the social evils of poverty and injustice.
adv. Archaic
In an evil manner.

TheFreeDictionary – evil That is a fascinating page. I am grateful to the creator of the page for all the information on it.

Here’s a simply hypothesis – did God create all things? Let’s look in Genesis. The first two chapters are very specific – he created the heavens and the earth and everything in it. Paul in Colossians (or whomever actually wrote it, since the author is under dispute) 1:16 certainly thinks so. So says Revelation 4:11, 10:6, Isaiah 42:5, 45:12 and, creation through Jesus is stressed in Colossians 1:15-18, John 1:1-3,10, Ephesians 3:9. That’s pretty clear.

Since God created everything, where did evil come from? It can’t have come from some outside source if God IS everything, and it must have God within it since God is IN everything. So where does that leave us with this very brief question? Yes, God ‘is’ evil, just in the same way he/IT ‘is’ good. Back to Genesis 1:27 “So God created humankind in his image, in the image of God he created them, male and female he created them.” Now we know where we get it from.

Not enough, hey? Ok, let’s look at the concept of ‘morally wrong acts’.

Is it morally wrong to give a bomb to a child and ask it not pull the pin? Or a loaded gun and ask it not to point and shoot? Yes, I’m talking about Adam and Eve. Why put them into a garden of perfection, and then deliberately point out the only tree they were not allowed to touch? And how did the serpent get in there in the first place, to ‘tempt’ them to their own destruction? Don’t tell me the all knowing God didn’t know Satan (for want of a more accurate name) was there? Doesn’t that remove the whole concept of ‘all knowing’? Did God expect too much of it’s innocent (childlike) creations? And on that thought, why did God create beings that couldn’t change? Because hanging around in a beautiful garden, without having to do a thing ever, is not going to teach anyone anything .. but pop in a bit of temptation, and suddenly the humans had to fend for themselves in an unknown wilderness .. that’s a great way to learn to survive, or perish.

Now let’s step out of the garden and into Lot’s life. Is one act of evil mitigated by another act of evil? Is it morally wrong to destroy two entire communities of people who are acting in morally wrong ways? How does anyone get a chance to learn and change if you take away their lives .. and where did they go when they were dead – because hell was not really an OT topic? But that’s another story. And why kill Lot’s wife for looking over her shoulder, and not kill her daughters for acts of incest, that God later decided were not good behaviour? What changed his mind?

Then we’ll look at Abraham. Is it morally wrong to ask a man to kill his son to prove his faith? Is lying wrong too, because God obviously had no intention of allowing the boy to die, so why put Abraham through that psychological torture (and it had to be torture, unless the man was a nut), when God thought Abraham was a true believer?

And talking about true believers, how about Job. He’s a conundrum all to himself. I really should go back to Saul, another of my favourites .. one of God’s favourites for a while, until he disobeyed the order to ‘murder an entire tribe of people’ (shades of Sodom and Gomorrah?) just because God didn’t like them at the time. God sent ‘an evil angel from the Lord’ to torment him into insanity. Is that a moral act? After all, he murdered hundreds, perhaps thousands, of innocent people, and only spared one and some food.

Is the OT God evil? Well, how would those people feel about it? And why should we love such a God, if IT cannot be trusted to speak first before pulling the trigger? If a person like that breaks into your home what would you do?

And then we have the NT God who teaches “love one another as I have loved you”. The most evil act IT did seems to have been to ask Jesus to sacrifice himself for love of us. I think I’ll stick with EL.

Love & Peace
Ama

Mockery

After writing a brief list of ideas in my first blog, I’m ignoring them completely, to start with something different, but fundamentally important to the way I view God.

Fundamental .. oh yes, that’s where it gets me in trouble, because the fundamentalist Christians who pick up on what I write share the same intense devotion, but from the other side of the coin. You see, I believe that God loves us unconditionally, and that we should not fear Him. Shall I look the word up for you in the dictionary? “Not subject to a condition” “In an unqualified manner”. I can see where there might be some argument, because the Bible says that God only loves those who love Him, but … if its true, why did he send Jesus to save, through atonement, every living human being (so say the church fathers of old – Athanasius being one of them), and all the dead ones – the ancient prophets appeared from their graves after the resurrection and ‘walked among the people’ (Matt 27:53). The bible didn’t say ‘only the Jewish people will be saved’, and it couldn’t have been the Christians, because they had not been invented yet. So everyone must mean everyone.

So I stepped on a gentleman’s toes, as did a couple of others who believe as I do, and we were informed we were mocking God? To mock – the online dictionary says – To treat with ridicule or contempt; deride. Now I am puzzled. We were not ridiculing God, we are all believers ourselves, in many and varied ways. We were simply stating our opinions. Where was the derision – except, perhaps, in the voice of the rebuttal?

God created humanity. That is a given among the folk who believe in God. I am not going to get into a debate about whether we developed from omeba or not, its not relevant to this entire site. Having created us, God then gave us free will. He demonstrated that by putting Adam and Eve into Eden and telling them what ‘not’ to do. When you were a child didn’t you automatically consider doing the exact opposite of what your parent wanted you to ‘not’ do .. I know I did. It’s called ‘temptation’, and Adam blamed Eve for it, and Eve blamed the snake. Only who put the snake in the garden in the first place .. it couldn’t have been that pair .. or could it? And if God did it, then why?

That leads to another thought – did Adam have a wife before Eve, one he made too many demands of, and so she left him? Then why did Adam pretend to be innocent in the garden, or was that the second Adam (since there are two ‘creation’ stories), the one made from the dust of the ground? And if so, what happened to the first – did Lilith, who turned herself into a demon (make a woman mad enough and you better watch out?) happily destroy the one ‘created in God’s image’ (Gen 1:27)? And back to innocence .. this second Adam didn’t recognise that Eve had no clothes on until after she ‘forced’ the ‘apple’ down his throat? (He didn’t bite it and swallow it willingly, heavens no!) So ‘was’ he the ‘new’ being, or was he just completely st… um … unintelligent?

Hmm… ok, so it wasn’t an apple, but one fundamentalist did write that exact word recently, and I did ask him which version of the Bible he was taking his quotes from? And if Adam had had sex with Lilith he was no longer innocent, so what sort of game was he playing? And did she follow him through the gates into Eden, otherwise it seems she might have been in the garden longer than the humans? So why did God allow her to remain with his ‘newborn’ innocent humans? And what does this have to do with God loving us unconditionally? Well, he made Adam twice (Gen 1:27, Gen 2:7) after Lilith (may have) obliterated him. But what did he do with Lilith? She’s still around folks. And since she was not annilihated by God, there must be a reason – could it be he loves all his creations equally, and allows each of us free will .. well, the humans anyway. The angels were created to serve, and have no free will. When they had it, a few of them chose to ‘fall’, and that could be another explanation for Lilith. But that’s another story.

What is free will? It’s the right to make mistakes. It’s the right to accept God as Lord, or not. It’s the ‘free will’ offering in the local church. It’s turning left instead of turning right. What are the outcomes of our choices .. well, according to the Bible we have no choices, because everything we are, do and think is predestined – so God chose my pink jumper today, along with the weather, and when I would drink the can of drink on my desk here, and the death of the bee that the bird just ate outside the window. He also predestined me not to believe that ‘his’ Book is the true, unerring Word, and in that way predestined me to go to Hell. Does that sound like a God who taught Jesus to teach us to ‘love our neighbours as ourselves’, and ‘turn the other cheek’? When Jesus said ‘I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another (John 13:34-35 NOAB 2001)’ was Jesus not being the Christ in that moment? Was he simply speaking his mind, rather than teaching us what God wanted us to know?

If God’s love is conditional, then how is it the priests of his church can allow people to ‘buy’ their way out of their sins, while indulging themselves in many of those deadly sins themselves? It might not happen now, but it certainly did in the past. Did the spirits of those people come back from hell, where they went even though they thought they were ‘saved’ by cash, and haunt the priests (and the dead priests each other) and demand their money back? You would think we might have heard one or two stories about that over the millenia since Jesus died on the cross .. but no. I won’t even touch on my own personal experiences with this subject of ‘where we go after we die’.

And back to the subject in hand – how does me saying that God loves us unconditionally mean I am mocking God? That got lost in the flow of thoughts, but its worth considering. If what I say doesn’t agree with what you believe, that’s fine, ignore me. Don’t accuse me of offending ‘your’ God, which also happened as part of that discussion. If God is offended I’m sure he can speak for himself. If I had to express an opinion of what God might see of those conversations, I would think he would be delighted that we are discussing him, looking up quotes in the Bible, and really considering what is ‘real’ and what ‘isn’t’ from our own points of view. Hopefully the discussion will draw each person closer to God .. or might even help one or the other of us to change our minds? Stranger things have been known to happen.

Enough for today,
Love & Peace
Ama Nazra